February 19th, 2019 at 12:55:13 PM
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The joker is fully wild in this game.

Pay outs are

7 card straight flush 500:1

5 aces 250:1

5 of kind 200:1

royal 100:1

straight flush 50:1

4 of kind 25:1

full house 5:1

flush 3:1

straight 2:1

what is this house edge for this bonus bet?

and in the main game of pai gow what is the house edge on standard bet when the joker is fully wild?

Pay outs are

7 card straight flush 500:1

5 aces 250:1

5 of kind 200:1

royal 100:1

straight flush 50:1

4 of kind 25:1

full house 5:1

flush 3:1

straight 2:1

what is this house edge for this bonus bet?

and in the main game of pai gow what is the house edge on standard bet when the joker is fully wild?

February 19th, 2019 at 1:53:53 PM
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Quote:Runlikegod777The joker is fully wild in this game.

Pay outs are

7 card straight flush 500:1

5 aces 250:1

5 of kind 200:1

royal 100:1

straight flush 50:1

4 of kind 25:1

full house 5:1

flush 3:1

straight 2:1

what is this house edge for this bonus bet?

and in the main game of pai gow what is the house edge on standard bet when the joker is fully wild?

Wow, they took away 3oak completely. Lowered flush, royal, 5aces, and 7 card sf, though it appears you can use the joker for that last one. And no envy bonus either?

If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.

February 19th, 2019 at 3:20:18 PM
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Quote:Runlikegod777

and in the main game of pai gow what is the house edge on standard bet when the joker is fully wild?

It should not change the house edge to any significant degree. Both player and house will have slightly better hands, not neither more often than the other. I believe that this rule change will result in slightly fewer copy hands so perhaps the house edge will drop maybe 1/100 of a percent.

February 19th, 2019 at 3:32:35 PM
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Quote:Runlikegod777<snip>in the main game of pai gow what is the house edge on standard bet when the joker is fully wild?

Runlikegod777,

This cannot be answered without knowing the "house way".

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February 20th, 2019 at 12:29:33 PM
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First let's discuss a rough basic strategy for playing your hand when the joker is fully wild.

Joker + 6 unpaired cards (no straight or flush)

Play the joker in your back hand and the 1st and 3rd highest of your other cards in the front hand.

Example: Joker- KQT542; arrange it as KT in front and Joker-Q542 (pair of queens) in the back.

Joker + 1 pair,

Always make the highest possible 2 pairs, then play the two pairs according to conventional strategy.

Do not make trips! Do not make a straight or flush unless it can be played with a pair in your 2-card hand.

Joker + 2 pair,

Always use the joker to make 3oaK of the smaller pair and play that in the back hand, arrange the higher pair in the front hand.

Joker + 6 unpaired cards (no straight or flush)

Play the joker in your back hand and the 1st and 3rd highest of your other cards in the front hand.

Example: Joker- KQT542; arrange it as KT in front and Joker-Q542 (pair of queens) in the back.

Joker + 1 pair,

Always make the highest possible 2 pairs, then play the two pairs according to conventional strategy.

Do not make trips! Do not make a straight or flush unless it can be played with a pair in your 2-card hand.

Joker + 2 pair,

Always use the joker to make 3oaK of the smaller pair and play that in the back hand, arrange the higher pair in the front hand.

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February 24th, 2019 at 7:32:33 PM
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you can use the joker for any of the bonuses, but there is no envy bonus. Can anyone calculate the house edge on this bonus bet? I care more about this bonus bet than the main game. (as the main game seems to be very close to regular pai gow when joker not wild)

February 28th, 2019 at 7:08:07 PM
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thanks for this explantion, can anyone help calculate the house edge of the bonus bet though? much appreciated can even give some donation for help

March 18th, 2019 at 3:39:46 AM
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so far I have this information

I have completed PGP poker hands that amount to a probability of about 99.63%. Here are the results, so far:

7 Card Str Flush: 2.833E-10

5 Aces: 0.000010457

5 of a Kind: 0.00043736

Royal Flush: 0.00005049

Str Flush: 0.00059937

4 of a Kind: 0.006891

Full House: 0.039359

Flush: 0.0347139

Straight: 0.0712604

Other: 0.84291

Based on these numbers, I calculate that the return is -0.10207, or a house edge of 10.207%.

Can anyone confirm if this # sounds pretty close to correct?

I have completed PGP poker hands that amount to a probability of about 99.63%. Here are the results, so far:

7 Card Str Flush: 2.833E-10

5 Aces: 0.000010457

5 of a Kind: 0.00043736

Royal Flush: 0.00005049

Str Flush: 0.00059937

4 of a Kind: 0.006891

Full House: 0.039359

Flush: 0.0347139

Straight: 0.0712604

Other: 0.84291

Based on these numbers, I calculate that the return is -0.10207, or a house edge of 10.207%.

Can anyone confirm if this # sounds pretty close to correct?

March 18th, 2019 at 4:58:45 AM
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You can use the probabilities at https://wizardofodds.com/games/poker/#toc-PlayerMustUseEveryCard . Just scroll up to Seven Card Stud — One Joker. You'll still need to pull out the 7 card straight flushes from the royal and straight flushes. And split the 5 aces from the 5 of a kind

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March 18th, 2019 at 4:03:28 PM
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cool, didnt even think about that, looks my #"s are slighlty off of his.